Thursday, June 28, 2012

डॉक्टर की फीस (चिकित्सा शुल्क) कितना होना चाहिए ?

कल अपनी फेसबुक वाल पर आम जनता की राय जानने के लिए एक पोस्ट डाली और पूछा की - "अपनी क्लिनिक में प्राईवेट प्रैक्टिस करते हुए एक चिकित्सक का चिकित्सा-शुल्क कितना होना चाहिए ? जिसे देने में मरीज को कष्ट न हो , उसे उचित लगे और वो ख़ुशी-ख़ुशी दे सके ?"

इस पर अभी तक प्राप्त १२७ टिप्पणियों में ५० प्रतिशत ने इलाज मुफ्त में किये जाने बात कही है। शेष ३० प्रतिशत ने कहा की २५ रूपए फीस होनी चाहिए। बची हुयी दयालू जनता ने ५०/- रूपए फीस होने की बात कही।

पढ़कर लगा , ११ रूपए में आधा किलो प्याज तो मिल ही जाएगा, गर्मियों के मौसम में कितना लाभदायी है। ५० रूपए में तो एक किलो आम या फिर ३०० ग्राम लीची भी मिल सकती है।

पढ़िए नीचे कुछ रोचक टिप्पणियां ---


  1. अपनी क्लिनिक में प्राईवेट प्रैक्टिस करते हुए एक चिकित्सक का चिकित्सा-शुल्क कितना होना चाहिए ? जिसे देने में मरीज को कष्ट न हो , उसे उचित लगे और वो ख़ुशी-ख़ुशी दे सके ? कृपया मार्ग-दर्शन करें ।
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      • Anoop Tripathi ‎11 rupees
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava कृपया अपने मन की बात लिखने में संकोच ना करें।
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava Thanks Anoop ji, You started with the best figure.
        19 hours ago ·
      • Anoop Tripathi because it is no enoufmoney.all give this amount
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava अनूप जी सहमत हूँ आपकी बात से, लेकिन महंगाई के मद्देनज़र....?
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Rajesh Yadav Divya ji...pahale aap apane clinik ka pta dijiyd fir hum bta ske usaka fis kya hona chahiye...
        19 hours ago via mobile · · 2
      • Manan Prasad jyada se jyad 50 rupaye
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup With the same token may I ask a question? How much should be a cinema ticket?
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Hans Raj Saini divya ji govt ne MBBS KI fee is bar double kar di hai,garib ke jeb par daka na pade govt ko pehle is baat ka khayal rakh medical education sasti karni chahiye,
        19 hours ago · · 3
      • Divya Srivastava Manan ji thanks.
        19 hours ago ·
      • Prabhat Pranay ‎50 rupaye adhiktam.....Rogi ki haisiyat ke aadhar par maanviya riyaayat zaroor ki jaaye...
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Sharad Dixit कम से कम जितना आप ले सकें। आप पर ज्‍यादा निर्भर करता है। आपकी भावनाओं पर निर्भर करता है।
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Ram Bilas Bansal it should be around 50
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Puneet Agnihotri jis trh se log bhgwan ji ko chadava chadate h usi trh dctr o b dena chahiye apni hasiyat h anusar kyuki dctr b unhi ka ek roop hote h na......jitna de skta h utna de de
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava राजेश जी , पता भी बताउंगी, लेकिन पहले मेरे प्रश्न का उत्तर देकर मेरा मार्गदर्शन कीजिये।
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Anil Sharma Free !!! jaisa ki PATANJALI CHIKTISALYA me hota hain.
        19 hours ago · Edited · · 1
      • Surjit Chander Mohan दिव्या जी ऐसा संभव नहीं है क्यों की डॉक्टर की categories different होती हैं ! high qualified डॉक्टर जयादा पैसे लेगा और un qualified डॉक्टर कम पैसे लेगा !
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Manan Prasad education aur medical line aaj ki date me bht bada business ban gya hai
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Rajesh Yadav Aap pta n btaye sirf itana bta de ki clinik HAYI FIYI eriya me hai ki lokal eriya me.sahi~sahi fis kitani honi chahiye tbhi malum padega...
        19 hours ago via mobile · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava सुरजीत जी , डॉक्टर तो सभी well qualified ही होते हैं , अतः उन्हीं के बारे में पूछा गया है। नकली डाक्टर्स का तो बहिष्कार ही किया जाना चाहिए।
        19 hours ago · · 3
      • Divya Srivastava अनिल शर्मा जी , आपकी बात से सहमत हूँ। निशुल्क चिकित्सा तो बहुत बड़ी समाज सेवा है, लेकिन चिकित्सा-शुल्क ही एक चिकित्सक की जीविकोपार्जन का साधन होता है, जिससे वह अपना औपने परिवार का पेट पालता है। अतः इस बात को ध्यान में रखते हुए मार्ग दर्शन करें।
        19 hours ago · · 3
      • Divya Srivastava Anoop Anup ji, आपने बहुत अच्छा प्रश्न किया है। सिनेमा का टिकट लोग ख़ुशी-ख़ुशी देते हैं। एक बार में परिवार के साथ , मनोरंजन के लिए अच्छा खासा व्यय करने में सकुचाते नहीं हैं।
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Anil Sharma दिव्या बहन जी,
        पूरे देश में २००० से ज्यादा पतंजलि चिकित्सालय द्वारा भी सेवा और परिवार आजीविका दोनों चल रही हैं !
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Rajesh Yadav Divya ji Mere liyd kya aagya hai...
        19 hours ago via mobile · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava अनिल जी ,
        पतंजलि एक बहुत बड़ा संस्थान है, जहाँ बहुत से लोग स्वेच्छा से करोड़ों का चंदा देते हैं। दवाईयों के माध्यम से भी आमदनी हो जाती है। अतः उसकी बात अलग है। कृपया एक आम-डॉक्टर को ध्यान में रखकर उत्तर दें।
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava प्रिय भाई राजेश, वक्त आने दीजिये। आपकी सेवाएं ली जायेंगी।
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup Remember. Someone pays for care provided at Patanjali. Nothing except advice is free in life.
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Himanshu Saxena in many countries medical is 100% free, like spain, mauritius, Hame bhi is tarah ki vyavastha ke bare me sochna chahiye
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup Again. Himanshu. Nothing is free. Someone pays for it through income tax or medicare tax or NHS tax. It is not free ANYWHERE.
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava क्या चिकित्सा परामर्श लिया ही नहीं जाना चाहिए ? कृपया मार्ग दर्शन करें ?
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava हिमांशु जी , यदि चिकित्सा मुफ्त कर की जायेगी तो कोई चिकित्सक अपने परिवार को पालेगा कैसे ? बात सरकारी चिकित्सालय की नहीं , प्राईवेट प्रैक्टिस की हो रही है।
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Himanshu Saxena anoop ji: i agree wid u, vaise bhi hamari govn itna tax le rahi hai, thoda aur le le but uske badle me shiksha aur medical free kar de
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Anil Sharma दिव्या बहन जी,
        आम आदमी के हिसाब से यदि रोगी की स्वेच्छा पर डाक्टर की फीस तय हो तो ज्यादा अच्छा होगा इस तरह से डाक्टर सेवा और मुनाफा दोनों ज्यादा पायेगा
      • Himanshu Saxena in many countries medical is 100% free, like spain, mauritius, Hame bhi is tarah ki vyavastha ke bare me sochna chahiye
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup Again. Himanshu. Nothing is free. Someone pays for it through income tax or medicare tax or NHS tax. It is not free ANYWHERE.
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava क्या चिकित्सा परामर्श लिया ही नहीं जाना चाहिए ? कृपया मार्ग दर्शन करें ?
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava हिमांशु जी , यदि चिकित्सा मुफ्त कर की जायेगी तो कोई चिकित्सक अपने परिवार को पालेगा कैसे ? बात सरकारी चिकित्सालय की नहीं , प्राईवेट प्रैक्टिस की हो रही है।
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Himanshu Saxena anoop ji: i agree wid u, vaise bhi hamari govn itna tax le rahi hai, thoda aur le le but uske badle me shiksha aur medical free kar de
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Anil Sharma दिव्या बहन जी,
        आम आदमी के हिसाब से यदि रोगी की स्वेच्छा पर डाक्टर की फीस तय हो तो ज्यादा अच्छा होगा इस तरह से डाक्टर सेवा और मुनाफा दोनों ज्यादा पायेगा
      • Anoop Anup everyone must buy basic insurance paying based on their income for routine medical care (no plastic surgery). Govt should pay part of premium for the poor. If youwant to upgrade say to include plastic surgery buy additional coverage.
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup insurance companies will pay for private practitioners and monitor their working. non doctors will automatically be marginalised
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Vipin Sharma ho sakey to gareeb mareej ko wapas jane k paisy bhi de.
        19 hours ago ·
      • Divya Srivastava Himanshu ji , It's a good suggestion but who will bell the cat ? All the doctors are having degree from a reputed college. All are equals. And how come a patient will decide ? Can a patient be capable of judging a doctor's caliber ?
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava Anoop ji, I agree with your suggestion . But can we expect this much of discipline from our govt.? Is it feasible ?
        19 hours ago ·
      • Anoop Anup if you take death rate in consideration of evaluating a doctor those who treat the sickest (say cancer patients) will have a high rate
        19 hours ago ·
      • Virendra Shrivastava right decission of govt.
        19 hours ago ·
      • Divya Srivastava In my humble opinion, one must not try to rate/ judge the doctor . It is not their job nor they have the right to do so.
        19 hours ago ·
      • Anoop Anup Divya. What do you mean by govt discipline?
        19 hours ago ·
      • राकेश शर्मा ‎25 रुपये अधिकतम |
        19 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup One can rate the doctor's behavior but very difficult to judge knowledge and performance
        19 hours ago · · 2
      • Himanshu Saxena bt agar govn rate karegi doctors ko then it will be surely unfair, aur waise bhi jab koi admit hota hai to hospital facilty and treatment dekhkar samajh ata hai doctors ka level, level decide karne ke liye no. of patients per year wala formula kaam aa sakta hai, freshers can come under no category for 3-4 years
        18 hours ago ·
      • Divya Srivastava सरकार से अपेक्षा रखना की वो doctors को pay करेगी और properly monitor करेगी , यह कुछ मुश्किल लगता है। शायद सरकार अनुशासित नहीं रह पाएगी।
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Himanshu Saxena insurance wala idea acha hai bt govn pr bharosa nahi hai
        18 hours ago · · 2
      • Anoop Anup Govt neither pays nor rates the doctor but makes sure everyone is playing fairly. Patient complaints are fairly and immediately investigated and closed. Say a doctor comes drunk at work govt can suspend his/her license till the problem is addressed.
        18 hours ago ·
      • Divya Srivastava डॉक्टर की काबिलियत एक डॉक्टर ही आंक सकता है, जो उसे डिग्री देते समय ही आंक लिया जाता है।
        18 hours ago · · 3
      • Anoop Anup Govt only to monitor, investigate and take action - like real MCI with doctors, legal people reps in it.
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup gtg. great debate.
        18 hours ago ·
      • Divya Srivastava मेरे वृद्ध पिताजी ने अपनी रोकी गयी पेंशन पाने के लिए मुकदमा दायर किया तो वकील ने ६० हज़ार रूपए फीस ली, जो हम बच्चों ने मिलकर दिया।

        आज एक हेयर कटिंग सैलून में पुरूषों के बाल काटने की फीस ५० से २०० रूपए और महिलाओं की हेयर कटिंग ५०० rupay है।
        18 hours ago · · 3
      • Himanshu Saxena madam lag raha hai ap ek doctor hain!!!
        18 hours ago ·
      • Divya Srivastava हिमांशू जी , कल को आपके बच्चे भी डॉक्टर बन सकते हैं।
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup Exactly. Hair are dead and some ppl want to pay one tenth for someone who will take care of their heart, brain and even life. We have to rethink our priorities
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava I wish people can leave their hostility aside towards doctors।
      • Divya Srivastava मित्रों ने जो राय दी , उसमें चिकित्सकों के प्रति नाराजगी की झलक दिखाई दी।
        18 hours ago ·
      • Himanshu Saxena ajkal to operation bhi contract basis pr hote hain divya ji
        18 hours ago ·
      • Anoop Anup In any country where the healthcare is average 14 to 18% of an individual's monthly income is spent on health care. Hospital, doctor, meds, rehab etc. Are we ready for it?
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava हिमांशू जी , सही कह रहे हैं आप लेकिन भ्रष्ट डॉक्टरों का गुस्सा उन चिकित्सकों पर नहीं उतारा जाना चाहिए, जो निर्दोष हैं और अर्थोपार्जन के लिए संघर्षरत हैं।
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava अनूप जी , हमारे देश में , उन्नत देशों की तरह चिकित्सा व्यवस्था होने में बहुत समय लगेगा।
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Jagdeep Kapoor divya g 100rs se jyada kisi ka bhi chikitsa shulk nhi hona chahiye kyunki aaj har DOCTOR ke paas marijo ki line lagi hui hai ...isse wo bulk me kama raha hai ...
        18 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava जगदीप जी , सही कहा आपने। सहमत हूँ।
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup This is not developed countries I am talking about. See a hospital buys an MRI machine for say 2 crore. They have to recover cost. Today so much is available to save a limb and life. We have money in India but it is being wasted.Unfortunately not much is changing.
        18 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava Yes I agree !
        18 hours ago ·
      • Jagdeep Kapoor thnx DIVYA g ...
      • Divya Srivastava Indeed it's our misfortune that our resources are being wasted in all spheres due to lack of proper administration discipline and leadership.
        18 hours ago ·
      • Anoop Anup We can do some reverse engineering. Say we expect a doctor to earn 5 lac rs a year and we wish he spends 15 minutes with us when we go to him as a patient. And he works 40 hours a week. That will give an idea of what he should charge. Add city differential (mumbai very expensive etc) Add 33% overhead (nurse, clinic rent). That will give a reasonable number.
        18 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava Great suggestion Anoop ji.
        18 hours ago ·
      • Anoop Anup Current problem is nothing compared to the problem which may be coming soon. In my above example I wrote 5 lac a year for a doctor. If he has to service a loan of 1 crore (50 lac donation and 50 lac interest) he has to earn 20 lac a year not to go bankrupt and divaala with wife and children on the street.Doctors being trained in govt medical colleges are joining govt jobs like for education.Unless we fix this problem medical care will be at least 30 times more expensive and much worse as they will have no time to spend on you.
        18 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava एक विद्यार्थी बहुत मेहनत के बाद इस क्षेत्र में प्रवेश पाता है, फिर तकरीबन आठ साल की पढाई के बाद उसे एक चिकित्सक की डिग्री मिलती है। उसकी पढाई पर होने वाले खर्च (सरकारी अथवा व्यक्तिगत) के अनुपात में क्या उसके साथ न्याय हो पाता है पांच लाख सालाना में ?
        18 hours ago · · 2
      • Ved Prakash Shukla according to patient's income.par ye kam koi doctor nahi kar sakta.ye sarkar kare va income tax me he health fee badha le.fir sarkar he sab ki fee ada kare.
        18 hours ago ·
      • Divya Srivastava वेद जी , मरीज की आय , किसी डॉक्टर की आय कैसे निर्धारित कर सकती है भला ? आय तो व्यक्ति की स्वयं की योग्यता और मेहनत पर निर्भर करती है ना ?
        18 hours ago · · 2
      • Ved Prakash Shukla mera matlab tha ki jaisa ki develop country me hota hai. income tax ke sath he poora health budget ka paisa sarkar le le fir har nagrik ko saman health suvitha mile va bill sarkar pay kare. aaj gareebo ko bekar sudthe hai va ameero ko super speciality. siksha swasth suraksha me sabhi ko bilkul barabar suvidha mile.
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • अंकित एक क्रांतिधर्मी docter dharmgranthon ke hisaab se brahaman hota aaur apni sewaon k amuly lena kutte ki vritti hai jo ki brahamano ke liye apatti kaal me bhi varjit hia brahamano ko daan par nirbhar hona chahiye
        18 hours ago ·
      • Govind Gopal Vaishnava जी ..राजस्थान में तो २०० रुपए है ..इससे ज्यादा नहीं ले सकते ..इससे कम खुद की इच्छा है ..
        18 hours ago · · 2
      • Himanshu Saxena govind ji rajasthan me mene khud 400 rs fees di thi jaipur me
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Govind Gopal Vaishnava Himanshu ji.. aap ki icha hai ..aap kitni de.. lekin nominated 200 hai.. aap sms se adesh ki prati lekar dikha sakte hai unko..
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Himanshu Saxena hamari icha se kya fark padta hai sir ye to dr ki icha pr nirbhar hai
        18 hours ago · · 1
      • Ved Prakash Shukla health tax le lo va ese free kar do yahi solution hai varna yahi chalta rahega.
        18 hours ago · · 2
      • Ashok Khanna Ek dentist ke liye B D S or M D S ki kya fee hai zara sochoo
        17 hours ago · · 1
      • Chander Shekher Rajput Divya ji , I think while seeing such a high inflation one should charge minimum Rs. 50 .
        17 hours ago · · 1
      • Ashok Khanna B D S ki fee hai 1676550/- for 5 years & MDS ki fee hai 2204500/- for 3 year uske baad clinic kholne ke liye shop 50 lacs ab socho dentist kya fee charge kare
        17 hours ago · · 3
      • Ramakant Tiwari He should sit with a DONATION BOX ! All voluntary. Yes, I mean that.
        16 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup ‎10 percent say 50 lac per 20 to 30 lac interest (by the time loan is repaid 50 lac interest)
        16 hours ago · · 1
      • Akash Yadav doctor ka darja bahut unchha hai bade paise aur samay kharch hota hai doctor banae mei kitani fees ho doctor ki yei to patient ki income level hi bata sakati hai kyu ki har kisi aaukat nahi hoti in doctors ki fees dena jahan pramarsh shulk hi 200 hai illlaz ka kya kharcha hoga upar se mahgee dawayei...oof ...maine ek doctor sahab ko ek gareeb se yei kahate suna jab paisa hi nahi hai to yahan kaise chale aaye sarkari aspatal jao.....
        16 hours ago via mobile · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava आकाश जी , सुनने में बुरी ज़रूर लग रही है डॉक्टर की बात, लेकिन एक चिकित्सक अपना परिवार पाल ले वही बड़ी बात है। सरकारी अस्पताल में खर्च कुछ कम हो सकता है तो उसका भी उपयोग करना चाहिए , जहाँ एक rupay का पर्चा बनता है , जिसकी मेंटेनेंस सरकार करती है, लेकिन एक प्राईवेट अस्पताल का खर्च तो चिकित्सक स्वयं वहां करता है तो वहां सब कुछ मुफ्त की अपेक्षा क्यों की जाए।
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup I had to go for a meeting. If the doctor charges 100 rs from each patietn and sees 10000 patietns in a year he will gross 10 lac. Minus clinic rent, nurse fee, other overheads and taxes will make his take home pay 5 lac. One year has 48 working weeks, 40 hours work a week (115200 minutes). So for each visit new or old doctor will spend 10 minutes including talking to you , chekcing you, writing labs and meds. You can do the numbers from here. To earn 10 lac take home (say in bigger city) he will either nee to double fee to still spend 11 mts with you or will have to cut time to half to keep the same fee. Bottomline is what do you want?
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava लोगों को सबसे ज्यादा यही अखरता है की चिकित्सक ने फीस क्यों ले ली। मुफ्त में इलाज क्यों नहीं किया। लेकिन दवा बनाने वाली मल्टीनेशनल कम्पनियाँ जिस तरह से महँगी दवाईयां बनाकर आम जनता को लूट रही हैं , उसके प्रति इनका कोई आक्रोश नहीं है।
        15 hours ago ·
      • Kuldeep Gaur HAR JEEV KI KEEMAT HOTI HE>>>>>>>> AUR HAR ENSAAN KE GUNO KI BHI KEEMAT HOTI HE>>>>> TOL APANA APANA ??????????
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup if we want good care we need to be less sentimental about what the doctor should do but more logical as to what are the facts because in the end facts win in most cases. Seccond we have to sit wodn in a quiet corner and think 'what am I doing to myself not to go to that doctor' - means - am i a smoker, do i wear a seat belt / helmet, am i exercising regualrly, am i eating healthy and hundreds of other things that i should be doing. The reason is if you won't care for yourself how can you expect anyone else (govt/ doctor/ amir khan) to do that for you. Nonone will have pain but you and those who depend on you ( see I did not use the workd your family)
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup is it necewssary to leave a lot of money for my childern when i die or is it moer important to spend it on my own health, is it necessary to spend money beyod my ability taking loans marrying my children or is my family's welfare more important as a whole. next think of having a leader in the country who will help you meet your goals and not short change you
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Hriday Pandey प्रिय दिव्या दीदी ......
        मेरे अनुसार साधारण चिकित्सकीय परामर्श शुल्क ५० रूपए होना चाहिए ,लेकिन गरीब लोगों को ( विशेषकर वैसे गरीब वर्ग जो गरीबी रेखा के नीचे रहते हों ) तथा दिहाड़ी मजदूर, रिक्सा चालाक तथा गरीब कृषक वर्ग इत्यादि को मुफ्त चिकित्सकीय परामर्श मिलना चाहिए ....
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava Very well said Anoop ji.
        15 hours ago ·
      • Anoop Anup Kuldeep is so right. her jeev ki keemat hoti hai. But you have to show first how much you value your life (not in terms of money) but in terms of value. if one smokes and drives drunk, or somes or drinks when pregnant or if one uses seat belt only when the checking is going on one is showing that he/she has no value for life including his/her own.
        15 hours ago · · 2
      • Divya Srivastava लोग मनोरंजन पर दिल खोल कर खर्च करते हैं, Restaurant में भी दरिया दिली से खाते हैं। शराब में हज़ारों उड़ाते हैं। छुट्टियाँ मानते हैं, एक बार में हज़ारों खपा देते हैं। महंगे कपडे और जेवर का खूब शौक रखते हैं। घर की सजावट पर लाखों लगाते हैं। लेकिन बेचारे डॉक्टर को उसका चिकित्सा शुल्क मात्र ५०/ १०० भी देने में जान निकलती है। ये तो आम जनता की तंगदिली है। नाइंसाफी लगती है।
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava काश की लोग अपने स्वाथ्य के प्रति जागरूक होते और स्वास्थ्य की रक्षा करने वालों की म्हणत और समर्पण समझते।
        15 hours ago ·
      • Kuldeep Gaur pratyek jeen apane jeevan ki keemat bhali bhanti janata he........ esiliye cheenti bhi khatare ka aabhash hone par apana raasta badal leti he.......... han kuchh jeev esaki paravaaha nahin karate aur kuchha..............????????????????
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava प्रिय, ह्रदय पांडे जी , आपकी बात सही है , लेकिन आर्थिक रूप से कमज़ोर वर्ग, (रिक्शा चालक इत्यादि ) , सरकारी अस्पतालों का उपयोग क्यों नहीं करता जिसे सरकार आम जनता की खातिर ही चला रही है। सरकारी अस्पतों में सर्व सुविधाएं हैं और वहां भी पढ़े-लिखे चिकित्सक ही होते हैं ।
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup Divya. I agree. It is sad as the ONLY person who really loses when saving on reasonable health care costs is the patient. Others like doctor, drug company, hosp lose money but the patient loses a limb or life and suffers in pain. Human beings are supposed to be the most intelligent race on earth, We indians are one of the highest educated class in the world and we fail to see what really matters in life - health. Almost no one thinks about it till they suffer seriously. At that stage nothing can be done.
        15 hours ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava Aviral Gupta




        Mam,can you please make the discussion public, so that others can express their views over the topic?



        Aviral



        JLN Medical College, Ajmer
        15 hours ago ·
      • Divya Srivastava Divya Srivastava



        about a minute ago



        Divya Srivastava




        Aviral ji....I don't know how to make my wall public...Kindly guide me the method to do so. I would love to read public opinion on this topic. Every one has the right to express their views.
        15 hours ago ·
      • Divya Srivastava कुछ लोगों का निवेदन आ रहा है की इस चर्चा को पब्लिक किया जाए। मुझे कृपया सुझाव दें की अपनी वाल को पब्लिक कैसे करूँ ताकि अन्य लोग भी इस विमर्श का हिस्सा बन सकें।
        15 hours ago ·
      • Akash Yadav aaj ke samay mei muft ki bat karana beimani hai gaali chod ke muft milata hi kya hai bat muft ki nahi loot ki hai........ fees mei riyayat ho unki income ke hissab se to kaisa rahega
        14 hours ago via mobile ·
      • Divya Srivastava क्या आपको भी लगता है की पेशे से चिकित्सक लोग कसाई होते हैं?
        क्या डाक्टर का चाकू , मरीज का नासूर हटाता है या फिर क़त्ल करता है ?
        क्या डाक्टर को मारा-पीटा जाना चाहिए ?
        क्या आपको लगता है की डाक्टर्स को कभी अपनी सुरक्षा और अधिकारों की मांग करनी चाहिए?
        क्या सरकार , डाक्टरों की सुरक्षा का कोई इंतज़ाम रखती है ?
        क्या डाक्टर के भी कोई मौलिक अधिकार अधिकार होते हैं?
        क्या डाक्टर्स की भी अपनी कोई निजी जिंदगी होती है?
        क्या आपने कभी सोचा की डाक्टर्स की पिटाई होती है , तो उनके भी बच्चे, पति या पत्नी, माता-पिता , भी दुखी , निराश और सहमे हुए होते हैं?
        क्या डाक्टर्स को कभी हड़ताल पर जाना चाहिए?
        क्या डाक्टर्स मानवीय संवेदनाओं से युक्त आपकी तरह मनुष्य होते हैं?
        क्या डाक्टर्स को सदैव परहित ही सोचना चाहिए, कभी अपने लिए नहीं ?
        क्या डाक्टर्स के सभी कर्तव्य मरीजों के प्रति होने चाहिए, अपने परिवार के प्रति नहीं ?
        क्या डाक्टर्स को कोई मारे तो भी , उसे चुप-चाप बर्दाश्त कर लेना चाहिए? गांधी जी के अनुसार एक गाल पे मारे तो ,दूसरा आगे कर देना चाहिए?
        क्या डाक्टर्स की हड़ताल गैर-वाजिब है?
        राजस्थान में डाक्टर्स की हड़ताल के चलते बहुत से लोगों की मौत हो गयी। इसका जिम्मेदार ईश्वर है ?, या फिर सरकार ?, या फिर डाक्टर ?
        क्या आपके घर में कोई डाक्टर है?
        क्या आप अपने बच्चे को डाक्टर बनाना चाहते हैं ?
        क्या आप डाक्टर को इंसान समझते हैं?
        क्या एक डोक्टर को दुःख होता है ?
        क्या एक डाक्टर से आपको सहानुभूति है?
        क्या डाक्टर के भी कुछ मौलिक अधिकार होते हैं ?
        क्या अपनी सुरक्षा के लिए आवाज़ बुलंद करना गैर-वाजिब है ?

        आपकी राय का इंतज़ार रहेगा।
        13 hours ago ·
      • Anoop Anup http://www.ehow.com/how_8722353_make-facebook-wall-public.html
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        13 hours ago · · 1 ·
      • Jagdish Kumar ITSHOUD BE FREE
        12 hours ago · · 2
      • Rituraj Dave Mujhe lagta h ki pure desh me dr ki ek hi fees ho or naye dr ke liye pahle 5 varsh 50 rs next 6 to10 y-75rs&11 to 15-100rs as acording increases their experience but bpl should b fixed charged 50 rs for any dr in india.
        11 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup One doctor rents a clinic in say Mumbai. 50 lac pagri and 2 lac rent monthly. Another one in small village anywhere - rent 20,000 no pagri. How can both charge the same fee and survive unlss both of them charge Mumbai doctor rates.
        10 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup Dear Jagdish. What should be free? Not clear from your answer.
        10 hours ago · · 1
      • Rajendra Agarwal tik hone par 50 rupya....
        10 hours ago · · 1
      • Anoop Anup Rajendra Bhai . Fir aapki sehat, khushi aur shaayad jaan ki keemat bas itni hi!
        3 hours ago · · 1
      • Be Vegitarian ‎50/
        about an hour ago · · 1
      • Divya Srivastava I wonder,. how irrational some people are...
      • Divya Srivastava डॉक्टर को फीस में आधा किलो प्याज दे दो। ( ११ रुपार वालों के लिए ) या फिर एक किलो आम (५० रूपए फीस देने वालों के लिए )
      • Divya Srivastava जो फ्री में इलाज चाहते हैं वो तो शाही दामाद हैं , डॉक्टर उनका ससुर।
        44 minutes ago ·
      • Yogesh Shandilya Sabako Saadar Pranaam;
        Dekhiye Mein Kuchh Kehana Chahata Hoon;
        Ho Sakata Hai; Vishay Se Hatt Kar Ho;
        Magar Ek Baat Pakkie Hai;
        Issase Hamaara Laabh Hi Hoga; aur Hamaarie Saakh (goodwill) Vishwa Starr Pe Phailegie;
        Yahan Kisi ka Bhi Kuchh Bhi Ho Sakata Hai;
        Kyonki Jo Behatreen Hai Wo Videsh Chale Jaatey Hai;
        Bache-Kuchey Yahan Kaam-Kaaz; Talaash Karate Hai;
        "Sewa Bhaav to Jaise Dhan Roopie Maha Naag Ne Danss Liya Ho;
        Iss Liye Ameer Ko Sikhana Hai Garib Ko Bachane Ke Faayade;
        aur Garibon ko Ameer Banane Ke Sahi Raste;
        Naa Deemag Akela Kuchh Kar Sakata Hai Naa Koi Ang;
        Samaaj Rupie Shareer Ko Balisht Karo Aur Vish Ka Kalyaan Karo;
        Free Sewa aur 1000 Ka Mewaa;
        Sab Theek Ho Jaayega;
        Daku Chor, aur Raja Sainik Hona Nahin Chahata (De-Grade)
        Yahi Sam-Asyaa Hai;
        13 minutes ago ·
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Bharat Bhushan said...

फीस एक टेढ़ा मामला है. हरेक व्यक्ति की डॉ. से अलग अपेक्षाएँ होती हैं. चंडीगढ़ में 1000 रु. फीस लेने वाले भी हैं और 25 रुपए वाले भी जो पूरी तरह प्रशिक्षित हैं और ग़रीबों की बस्ती में कार्य करते हैं. 25 रु. फीस लेने वालों के यहाँ मरीज़ों की भीड़ लगी रहती है. मैं नहीं समझता वे कम कमाते हैं. बल्कि मैं उन्हें अपने व्यवसाय के प्रति अधिक इमानदार पाता हूँ.

ZEAL said...

भूषण जी , फीस तय कर पाना वास्तव में एक बहुत ही दुरूह कार्य है।

kunwarji's said...

राम राम जी,

मेरे एक मित्र ने अभी कुछदिन पहले बताया था मुझे कि यमुनानगर में एक चिकित्सक है जो न्यूनतम पात्रता से कही अधिक अनुभव और डिग्रियां लिए हुए है!,मात्र दस रुपये फीस लेता है और जब तक वो पर्ची मरीज अपने पास रखता है तब तक उसकी दूसरी पर्ची नहीं काटी जाती!मतलब उसी पर्ची पर उसका इलाज चलता रहेगा!

उसके बेटे भी चिकित्सक है,उनके भी हॉस्पिटल है,और वो अपने पिताश्री की इस हरकत से बहुत परेशान बताये जाते है!यमुनानगर के चिकित्सको के लिए भी ये परेशानी का कारण बना हुआ है कि एक बहुत ही अधिक अनुभव और ज्ञान प्राप्त चिकित्सक इतना सस्ता इलाज कैसे कर सकता है..?

सभी मिल कर ऐतराज भी जता चुके है,पर डॉक्टर साहब है कि ऐसे ही इतने में ही इलाज बड़ी ख़ुशी से कर रहे है!

ZEAL said...

कुवर जी , नतमस्तक हूँ ऐसे श्रेष्ठ एवं करुण-हृदयी चिकित्सक के आगे।

Kailash Sharma said...

फीस डॉक्टर की योग्यता और अनुभव पर निर्भर है...एक मापदंड बहुत मुश्किल है, लेकिन १०० से ३०० तक उचित है.

mahendra verma said...

सवाल जितना सरल है, जवाब तय करना उतना ही मुश्किल !

प्रवीण पाण्डेय said...

50 रु से अधिक न हो, गरीबों को मुफ्त ही मिले..

Maheshwari kaneri said...

ये तय कर पाना बहुत मुश्किल सा लगता है ..मेरे विचार से १००से २०० के बीच ही होना चाहिए..

ZEAL said...

प्रवीण पाण्डेय जी, आप रेलवे में इंजिनियर हैं । अपनी salary देखिये। अब एक मुफ्त में इलाज करने वाले डाक्टर की मासिक आय जोडिए। शून्य+शून्य+शून्य=शून्य। क्या मुफ्त चिकित्सा करके एक चिकित्सक अपना परिवार पाल सकेगा ? गरीब की क्या सेवा कर सकेगा जब खुद ही गरीब हो जाएगा।

मैं और मेरा परिवेश said...

ऐसे मौके पर गांधी जी याद आते हैं वे कहते हैं कि प्रकृति ने हमारी जरूरतों को पूरा करने सबकुछ दिया है और लालच की कोई सीमा नहीं। पुराने कवियों ने भी तो कहा है साईं इतना दीजिए जामे कुंटुंब समाय, मैं भी भूखा न रहूँ साधु, न भूखा जाए।
फिर भी पैसा कमाने का सबका अधिकार है वो अपनी फीस तय कर दे चाहे जितनी लेकिन ट्रांसपेरेंट रहे फिर गलत फायदा न उठाये और सबसे बड़ी बात मरीज के प्रति संवेदनशीलता हमेशा बनी रहे।

Arshad Ali said...

कठिन प्रश्न.... कोई भी इन्सान जो सेवा करता है ...उसकी भी एक ज़रूरत होती है...एक डॉक्टर की ज़रूरत यदि उसके मरीजों से पूरी होनी है तो उनका एक शुल्क उन्हें मिलना चाहिए..जो १०० से ३०० तक योग्यता के अनुसार होना चाहिए...
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मेरे वृद्ध पिताजी ने अपनी रोकी गयी पेंशन पाने के लिए मुकदमा दायर किया तो वकील ने ६० हज़ार रूपए फीस ली, जो हम बच्चों ने मिलकर दिया।

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Rajesh Singh Rasho jis tarah uper wale ka koi fic nahi hota hai usi tarah Dr. ko bhi marijo ke uper chhod dena chahiye. kyo ki dharti ka gad Dr. hee to hai.
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Divya Srivastava राशो जी, ऊपर वाले को जितनी फीस (चढ़ावा) मिलता है, शायद आपको ज्ञात नहीं है, फल, फूल, मेवा, मिष्ठान, कुरकुरे नोट, सोना चाँदी , आदि आदि...(करोड़ों का टर्न-ओवर) होता है प्रतिवर्ष... ऊपर वाला तो सबसे धनवान है, बिन मांगे ही सब पा जाता है......
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Gyan Shrivastava Divya Ye to batana mushkil hai. Mere khyal se mariz ke halat aur kitna samay lagta hai uske examination ke hisab se fees hona chahie. Dusri bat hai ki mariz ke paying capacity ko bhi concider karna chahie.
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Divya Srivastava Yes, Gyan ji, फीस तय कर पाना वास्तव में एक बहुत ही दुरूह कार्य है।
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Divya Srivastava Only a doctor knows how difficult it is to decide how much to charge as his/her consultation fee.
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Raghvandra Srivastva Jai ho,
Divaya je utna jitna kst se mrrhe aadmi ko aur kst na de.
Hari om.
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Anoop Anup Anyone. How much should a doctor in a middle sized city earn to live reasoably and be able to support his family? Give number in lacs rupees per year. Thanks.
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Anoop Anup Anyone? Still waiting....
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ZEAL said...

Divya Srivastava Anoop ji, none can answer this cuz they don't want to think about a doctor. They are so selfish. They just want a doctor to cure them whenever they are in need. That too free of cost.
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Satyendra Shukla Vidambanao ka desh he INDIA. Shayd bharat hota to koi aur hi baat hoti.
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Surendra Vyas Divya G obeisance
We support the idea has come!
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Anoop Anup Let me ask a different question. What is a salary of say an IAS or IPS?
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Anoop Anup Dear Divya. Being selfish from a human being is understandable. But suicidally stupid. That beats me! Not focusing on one's medical issues is suicidal. Leaving money on daughter's marriage or leaving in will and not spending on your care is stupid.
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Divya Srivastava गरीबों की सेवा का दायित्व सिर्फ चिकित्सकों पर है? इंजिनीयर्स, शिक्षक, आई ए एस अधिकारी , राजनीतिज्ञ, और वकीलों के बारे में क्या ख़याल है ?... साल में कितनी बार गरीबों पर कृपा दृष्टि करते हैं?
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Anoop Anup Medicine is different from all these profession. Doctors have been and many still are above 'laalach'. Question is do we as public respect them with as much respect as they deserve? If we do not do something in the next 20 years or so it will become business only.
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Divya Srivastava Anoop ji, I have noticed that you are contradicting with me on all the points i write here. Anyways..
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Divya Srivastava I am trying to present a doctor's view, who is honest and selfless and also struggling for his/her earning. But instead of understanding the point, all are showing their ire against doctors.
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Divya Srivastava All the doctors are not greedy. Hardly 5% are greedy and turning this pious profession into business, but majority of us are still struggling and fighting for survival.
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Divya Srivastava Some of your comments confused me so i mentioned it.
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Anoop Anup Dear Divya. youhave started a great string. congratulations on that. I thought I was the only one suppporting you! I am trying to give comments mostly from doctor's point of vie and some from patient's point of view. From profession's point of view. No profession can be compared with this one. It is the greatest profession in many ways. As a result it is expected that the patient expects more from a doctor than say from a banker. Patient expects compassion. From doctor's point of view. Even without loans he needs to earn money to run his family. So he cannot run his clinic in losses day after day. Another thing. doctor is no god and cannot fix problems arising from patient's wrong choices - smoking, driving without a seat belt etc.From my point of view - patient's need to follow medical advise (if you do not respect someone you are not likely to follow advise given by that person) find a fair way to compensate doctors and then hold them accountable for their care. Warnings - I have given many warnings as i can see a danger ahead. High cost of private medical colleges will increase health care cost 5 to 10 times in about 10 years when these doctors graduate. It can be prevented if WE TAKE ACTION NOW.

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Divya Srivastava चिकित्सा परामर्श ही एक चिकित्सक की जीविका का साधन होता है। उसे ना देने पर रोगी को चिकित्सा का सम्पूर्ण लाभ नहीं होता।

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Divya Srivastava यदि डॉक्टर के परिवार का खर्चा सरकार उठा ले तो डॉक्टर निशुल्क सेवा कर सकता है। केवल गरीबों की ही नहीं अमीरों की भी कर देगा। लेकिन अफ़सोस चिकित्सक के बारे में कोई क्यों सोचेगा। वो मरता है तो मरे बस रोगियों के कष्ट दूर कर दे, जब-जब ज़रुरत पड़े तब।

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Divya Srivastava एक चिकित्सक के बारे में भी कोई सोचेगा ? ...ना ! कोई न सोचेगा.....God help those who help themselves....

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Anoop Anup ----Dear Divya. You raised an issue which even Aamir Khan missed. Let me clarify. If an average cost for a doctor to see a patient is say Rs 200 and he is forced to charge Rs 50 as the patients will not go to him the doctor will go for commissions (main theme of aamir's program - commission form lab and drug companies and referrals). Till that discrepancy is corrected no efforts to improve medical care will be useful. Aamir like most of his programs has brought to the surface questions but not offered any solutions. I liked your question here as it was the first step towards answering that question that Aamir raised but did not answer. That is why you need to be congratulated.


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Divya Srivastava --Anoop ji , thanks for the encouragement.

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